AI Tools Podcast

IIn this episode, we talk with Carolyn Elefant about her AI for Lawyer Moms workshop and the idea that AI isn’t about massive overhauls—it’s about using the small pockets of time in your day more effectively. We also explore the rise of MSOs, shifting client expectations, and what solo lawyers need to understand to stay competitive in an AI-driven world.

Workflow

Options

Workflow Options: Ivory Mind (10 mins)

In this kickoff “Workflow Options” episode, Ron Drescher takes a closer look at Ivory Mind, an AI document assistant designed to help professionals quickly understand and organize their materials.

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Episode 008 AI Discovery: A Safer, Defensible Way to Use AI in Discovery Work (35 min)

AI can dramatically improve discovery work — summarizing productions, organizing documents, spotting patterns, building timelines, and making massive email chains usable. But most lawyers still lack a clear, defensible framework for using AI on discovery materials safely.

Field Note

Building the Stool — How to Implement the AI Discovery Standards (15 min)

In this companion Field Note to Episode 008, Ron walks through the practical steps lawyers can take to implement the emerging AI discovery standards. He breaks the process into a simple three-legged stool: choosing the right vendor, properly configuring the tool, and handling the lawyer-side workflow and documentation needed to make AI use in discovery more defensible.

Your hosts

About the show

Ron Drescher

Attorney & Host

After more than 40 years in the trenches of bankruptcy law, Ron Drescher has seen legal practice evolve from paper and fax machines to cloud software—and now to artificial intelligence.

He’s not a technologist. He’s a practicing lawyer who understands how law firms actually work—and where they break.

Through his podcast, AI Tools for Practicing Lawyers, Ron helps attorneys move beyond hype and confusion to practical, ethical use of AI in their day-to-day work. His focus is on what matters: tools that save time, improve client service, and fit within the realities of legal practice.

If you’re trying to figure out what AI actually means for your practice, Ron is the guide who speaks your language.

Heather Gardner

Co-Host & Founder, Propel Paralegal Services

Heather Gardner is the Founder and CEO of Propel Paralegal Services, a virtual legal support company providing experienced bankruptcy paralegal services to attorneys nationwide. She has spent her career working extensively with consumer bankruptcy practices, supporting debtor-focused Chapter 7 and Chapter 13 cases through every stage of the bankruptcy process.

An early adopter of AI in legal practice — from GPT to Spellbook — Heather uses AI extensively in content marketing, workflow development, and creating SOPs. She frequently speaks on practical ways attorneys can use AI tools for drafting, business operations, and everyday practice management.

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